This is pathetic that again the warminster police show poor shooting skills. The fact that they did not remove the folks in the area shows poor judgement. But then to shoot an innocent person, pathetic. Take away the guns, he also shot a stray bullet into another woman's home! If they do not have better aim, take the gun away until they practice and pass tests quarterly. Thank god I moved out of there, the corruption is unbelievable.

No ones aim is perfect when being shot at. She was only a few feet away. It's not like they showed up and decided to start shooting at the building. They were using self defense when the psycho started shooting at them. Corruption? Really? Wake up buddy.

a rifle????,,I could understand if it were a handgun.....but a rifle you must AIM..

Deborah Silva had called the police to report that Andrew Cairns was threatening suicide. It is sad that he did not accomplish his goal and that Marie Zienkewicz was killed because she was a good neighbor. If Cairns killed himself, there would have been no firefight and no standoff. He would have saved a decent person's life and eliminated himself.

The gunman should be charged for the death of the neighbor. If there were such a thing, his 'girlfriend' should be charged with stupidity. She had the police at the apartment earlier in the day, she should have pressed charges or left him then. Instead she goes back in, they continue to drink and it escalates into a neighbor being killed, hundreds of police, E.T.'s, etc., spending a night trying to protect the neighbors & capture her idiot boyfriend. In fact, she should not have dropped the charges in Philly 6 years ago against him & no one would have been subject to the terro that evening. I hope the woman thinks her gnorance was worth it in the end. May the neighbor rest in peace, the gunman rot in hell & the girlfriend grow up.

And now for more breaking news in Warminster...During the week of March 25, Pennsylvania Dog Wardens will be canvassing homes in the Warminster Township area. All dogs must be licensed and vaccinated against rabies. Violators can be cited with a maximum fine of $300 per violation plus court fees. DO NOT OPEN YOUR DOOR. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENTER YOUR PREMISES
UNLESS THEY HAVE A SEARCH WARRANT. Local PD have nothing better to do than harass lawbiding citizens. I have license and vaccinations for my pets but will not be inviting the dog warden in for tea! They can check with the Bucks County Treasurer who issued these licenses. They do not need to bang at my door. Just do something more useful to keep the township safe. There is no rabies epidemic among the canine population here so it isn't a public health issue either. Go chase the rabid racoons out there.

So the officer that actually killed the woman is not likely to face any punishment but the guy is getting charged with homicide??? I'm not saying the guy shouldn't be charged with something for creating a dangerous situation like that but for God's sake, how does a trained officer shoot the wrong person in a case like this. I'll tell you how, the officer done f'ed up. That's how. My GRANDMOTHER taught me about gun safety for goodness sake. Even she knew that before you pull the trigger you have to A) be sure of your target and B) be sure of your backstop so you don't hit anything behind your target. Certainly a trained officer of the law should know at least as much as my grandmother, wouldn't you think???

Accountability. If I am subject to be held to it, I want to see it from lawmakers and law enforcers as well. Criminal negligence is what this officer should be facing at the very least.

Just because the DA isn't pressing charges against the officer doesn't mean Ms. Zienkewicz's family won't.

^^^ Agreed but there's enough to warrant criminal charges here imho, not just civil charges.

^^^See what I mean? Human mistake. That was supposed to be "UNacceptable." My bad, I'll take full responsibility for that typo.

Why can't people except the fact that the police did nothing criminal in their actions!Their attempt and eventual success in apprehending this gun shooting drugged up drunk saved more innocent people from getting hurt! It's unfortunate what happened but the woman made the decision on her own to be brave like those cops and try and save some one! They are all heroes! This article is only a summary of the investigation and I am sure there are many points in detail, that led to the DA's decision not to charge the police officer! If every time an cop had to worry about being charged for doing his job to the best of his ability in a situation such as this! No one would want to be a cop! Then who would show up at your door when your screaming for help! Then, those of you, who would never put your lives on the line for someone that you don't even know and then be second guessed and ridiculed for your bravery.....would all be whining! It's a tough enough profession to work the long hours,through the night,weekends and holidays and not being with your family at functions! It doesn't pay all that great either! You take constant crap from people who get pissed off cause they receive a ticket or get arrested for doing something illegal! But instead of taking responsibility, it's easier to pass blame on the officers who try and protect you and your family, everyday, all day! It's a thankless job! But my husband loves what he does and feels that he does make a difference!

Adrenaline was the likely cause of this officer discharging his weapon.

I am not defending Cairns actions or involvement in any way but it is ridiculous that he is being charged for an over eager police officer. It does not say in the article that the officer was not hitting where he was aimed. It says they thought it was Cairns and I quote "Heckler said police believed it was Cairns emerging from the apartment when Zienkewicz opened her door." You do not shoot until you have properly identified your target. This was not an accident caused by Cairns, this was someone not following a standard protocol for police, military and any other gun user

I believe this story is far from over with more details yet to be revealed. Obviously it is a tragedy an innocent life was lost. I would personally like to know more about how the wrong door was targeted. One of the published news articles indicates an officer previously responding to the domestic disturbance call earlier in the day identified the far right door as the target. Also, what about lighting and protocol of identifying target before firing a shot? I still believe there is more to this and am not willing to vilify the actions of the police. I have to believe the DA and his team who have access to this information are making the correct decision. Once Cairns trial goes to court, I am sure the details will come out.

Bad cops make bad shots.

The cop was probably using an assault rifle.Those are so evil,they have a mind of thier own.It's not the shooter's fault,it's the weapon's.However, the free pass on shooting noncombatants would make it easy to clear our streets of nondesirables.Have a staged fire-fight and cleanup the drug dealers etc. that the courts can't or won't touch.It would make DA Heckler's job easier;less court cases.

If you can't see who or what you are aiming at,,, Don't Shoot.. Especially at a person who isn't a target to begin with. Why was not the Door identified and why wasn't the occupants gotten safely out???? Warminster Police need to be sent back to Police training.

The cop should be discharged immediately. They are trained for incidents like this and obviously he was trigger happy. In the Intel it said "he thought" it was Cairns exiting the building. Really?? You can't tell the difference between an elderly woman and a 50 something year old man? Totally unaccetpable. We don't need police like that in Warminster. Get rid of him. I will be at the next township meeting and hope others follow to get this cop off the Warminster Police Department.

Shooting into a multifamily occupied building with paper thin walls is a no brainer. Only a scared idiot, not a trained law officer would do such a thing. Let's hope the guy with the rifle who is unnamed is not the designated sniper for the Warminster police dept.

The Libertarian Party of Bucks County is saying something about this.

http://warminster.patch.com/blog_posts/libertarians-say-feb-19th-shooting-shouldnt-be-excused-by-the-da

As a 12 year old novice hunter, number one lesson,always know what your shooting at before you pull the trigger. Lesson two, always know what is beyong your target before you pull the trigger. If we make mistakes in life we must correct them or pay for thoses mistakes. Unless your a trigger happy police officer who kill's an innocent bystander.

Too all the DA said the police officer purposely shot at the door of the neighbor as it openned thinking it was the gunman. He never identified who was openning the door before openning fire. He should be disciplined for his actions as he is required to identify a target and not shot indiscriminately. This is the second incident in recent years where the Warminster police have fired bullets which hit other buildings and now a person who was not the target. They need to be disciplined and taught how to handle a gun in a high pressure situation.

The police cannot protect you. They can only respond to your calls for help. They are the second responders, you are the first responder.
When the police come under fire the first action should be to take cover and assess the situation(situational awareness) If necessary return fire at a designated target not just a building or window. If they can't see their actual target don't shoot(yes there would be exceptions to this but not in an apartment setting like this). If I may "If we could only save one life" we should ban all police shootings. If this had been a law abiding citizen protecting his home at night and fired shots at an intruder and one of the rounds went through a wall and killed a neighbor you would surely have seen charges pending but not the thin blue line nope they get to walk away

A lot of comments, for such little information. I'd recommend outside investigation. I feel sad for the officer, however, he did kill an innocent woman. Can't say, "Oh well," & jusrt let it go. DID he/she exercise proper judgement? Time for look by State Police, PA. Justice Dept, (or F.B.I). "Adminsitrative leave" until finished!!

Everyone needs to stop blaming the police for this. That officer will have to live with this for the rest of his life and that will not be easy. They did the best they could with a bad situation. The door opened and they took thier shot, being under fire and a confusion of door numbers sucks! This situation wouldn't of gotten this far if the 2 in a sick relationship got help! The police should start doing gun checks if called out to a domestic situation and remove ALL guns found in the home for at least 90 days. IF THERE IS GUNS IN YOUR HOME, AND SOMEONE WHO IS IN A BAD MENTAL STATE........ GET THE GUNS OUT!

An officer has the right to defend himself when he is being shot at! That's what they are taught in the police academy! If all of you idiots had looked at the diagram that the DA released, it clearly shows a bullet landed in close proximity to the right of him and one to the left. He was over 100 yards away in order to try and be at a safe distance. Several trees were positioned in front of the complex where the shooter resided, plus it was at dusk. When that door started to open he had every right to return fire with the reasonable expectation that it was Cairn's! It's the door next to his apartment and who in their right mind would open their door when hearing gunshots! It is absolutely understandable that he would have thought that it was the shooter! He does not have to wait to be shot at again! Many crazies like to go out by ( suicide by cop)! The officer did what was necessary to defend himself! The elderly woman took the risk by opening her door to Cairn's girlfriend! Yes, it's tragic but it is not criminal! Did you hear of anyone else opening their doors during the shootout? No! Of course not! The cops didn't pick the apartment complex to have a shootout, the drunken neighbor did! If you listen to the 911 tapes the girlfriend was drunk and of no assistance to the police as far as helping with information! You can train from now till doomsday and you could have 1000 different scenarios play out! Like the DA said it was a perfect storm! So get over it!

Don't think the DA's office would not have gone after that cop if he had been negligent! If you read the article in the Patch from March 1....Officer Schmalz of Warminster P.D. was acquitted of charges stemming from an incident last July. The DA office went after him 3 times to no prevail!!! So stop saying that the DA would cover up for the cops!!!! You have no frickin' clue what you are talking about! You are just pissed that the officer isn't getting charged! Cause you want to blame the cops for everything, because you have some kind of hang up towards the police!!! Other wise you would be blaming the a**hole who caused this mess not the men and women who protect your butts!!!! When someone is shooting up your neighborhood do us all a favor don't call the cops...handle it yourself!!!! Would love to see how that would work for you!!!!

"Officer Schmalz of Warminster P.D. was acquitted of charges stemming from an incident last July. The DA office went after him 3 times to no prevail!!!"

The discussion is not about Schmalz. Completely irrelevant. This is a far more serious case. But your right. The DA failed in that case just he did in this one.

"You have no frickin' clue what you are talking about! You are just pissed that the officer isn't getting charged! Cause you want to blame the cops for everything, because you have some kind of hang up towards the police!!!"

Never said the officer should be criminally charged. Said he should be fired and replaced. I also have no hang up towards the police, just think they should be called out when they do a p*ss poor job. They are, after all civil servants.

"When someone is shooting up your neighborhood do us all a favor don't call the cops...handle it yourself!!!! Would love to see how that would work for you!!!!"

That's an idiotic statement. Go calm down. Maybe make yourself a nice sandwich and a glass of milk to go with your meds.

No one held accountable , boy that is a shock.
Heck im surprised the cops didnt find (plant) a gun on the elderly lady

plus do favor dont walk into any church unless you are ready to admit to god you murdered one of his daughters. he'll only forgive you when you do..

john q really, use your real name and not one of a movie.

joe mac, your a schmuck. a few years ago these cowboys lit a neighborhood. taking 160 shots, only hitting there target 7 times. where did the other 153 go? one was found above the headboard of an 8 yr old girl. what would you say if that bullit killed her. ooops. shhhh joe.

Anonymous - can you agree with me on the fact that this should be looked at and reviewed to see if there is a way to prevent this from happening again? ( or similar) What insets me is that the DA and local law enforcement not taking steps to make things better. All I see is them saying that this event is just something that happens. I hope you can understand my concern, I am not out for blood just a resolution to help our community.

Nothing like an unbiased opinion, eh anonymous? Just an FYI, you do realize that there is other punctuation on the keyboard other than an exclamation point, don't you? Try using some of the others for a change and you may not come across sounding quite so simple minded. Only a child speaks in the absolutes that you do. The blind faith you so conveniently place in the DA in this case is telling as well. Would you be so quick to support him if he was to investigate the officer that shot the innocent neighbor?

You know, you people keep saying that the entire department needs to be sent back to training as a result of a mistake from one officer. One person said to take the guns away, which would be like saying "take the water hoses from the fire fighters". These officers are trained in these type of situations. How do we know that it wasn't a new cop that had never been in this type of situation before? We don't know who the officer was, and how new he was to the force. Also, if it was my grandmother that had gotten shot, I would be very upset and irate, but would understand the circumstances. I would also want the officer sent back to training, but not the entire force. That is ridiculous. You people need to stop arguing on a little website, and if you really want to make a difference, which you 99 percent most likely won't, go start protesting at the DA's office. That would get the point across. Not arguing on this website through a computer. Get up off of your lazy asses and do something about it if you think the officer should be charged.

i live two apts down from all this drama and i cant believe the andrews girlfriend still lives there it makes me sick and half the crap that is written in these comments about this are not even accurate i know because unlike 99 percent of you i was there heard phone call from the police and seen the shots watched the police did not get a phone call from plice or apt complex it was a free for all for the first hour the apts address's on there door are all wacky and the door the old lady was killed at is right under andrews window so it looks like its his door god only know why the old lady would open her door

You are not going to get a personal phone call from the police in a situation like this. They don't have the time under the circumstances.They are worried about dealing with a crazy guy shooting a gun! I read that 911 was suppose to call ( they are not the police) and alert the public of the emergency at hand and tell you what to do. It supposedly is a very new concept and may have been used for the first time on that day.
I read that Cairn's girlfriend (when finally coaxed by the police, to come to them, after several attempts),never told the police that the old lady had been shot! Cairn's shot 19 times at the cops and the officer returned 4 shots when he saw the door start to open. The shots hit the door and the door frame. The gun shots had stopped and the police thought they had shot him. When they felt that it was safe enough to approach, that's when they realized they had shot the elderly woman! Cairn's girlfriend never breathed a word. I don't know how she could show her face!

Correction: The police weren't sure, until after the investigation, that the bullet that killed the woman, had come from them.

I know that I would not have liked to have been stuck in my apartment for hours either! But what you think the cops should or shouldn't have been doing, doesn't matter. They were following procedure. Sorry that it wasn't to your liking. It's common sense to know, that if you hear gun shots coming from outside your home, that the safest place to be, is to stay put! Until the cops feel that it's safe to come out. I certainly don't need a cop to tell me why they are there. The cops are not going to bang on your door and everyone else's to inform you of the situation and take a chance at getting shot! If you asked them questions and they didn't tell you anything, did you ever think that there may have been a reason! If you are being evacuated, they want you out as fast as possible! They are not going to stand there and have a chit chat with you and the rest of the complex! They were there for hours, I guess they weren't allowed to talk to one another either? The next thing you will say is that how dare they have something to drink or be allowed to go to the bathroom. You are being very unfair. They were there to stop this guy and help you and everyone else in that complex to get out safely. Count your blessings and be thankful that you weren't hurt! This situation could have been a lot worse!

i was watching cairns apt since the first shot off my balcony i could see in his apt watching the place light up from the flash bang my windows ur open my family was eating dinner my chair faces the dining room window that faces cairns apt windows at the first shot and flash i carried my son to the bath tub and made him ly down and wife lied on the floor and i liad on the floor at the balcony sorry people but andrew did nt shoot 19 times i heard every shot fired and the police didnt shoot the old ladies door frame it was right in the center of the door chest high i walked past the door the nextnight to go to work and saw them by the time i got home is was boarded up and yes devon i also saw the police laughing and smiling as well by were humans he was caught he wasnt going anywhere all the extra police that were there not needed i'dbe bullshiting with my fellow officer too

My only issue with them hanging out and joking around is that they were - according to anonymous - allegedly too busy to inform residents of what was going on. High stress times call for needed relief - I can understand that - but I added that point to address anonymous' claims that they were all too busy to communicate with the community. We also figured out on our own to turn off the lights and what not - but I didn't understand how the news was reporting that the police informed residents of what to do. I can't help but think the police released that they had done this to the news themselves. And yes - center of the door. I wasn't aware she opened the door - I had first heard that she was shot through her door. If that was the case, that would in my opinion fall under the moral penal code of not using deadly force with innocent bystanders in the immediate area. Even if she did open the door... It's just all a big shame...

It makes me sick how you take your anger out on the wrong people! Cairn's is the bad guy here but yet you choose to blame the cops! Typical! Enough said on this story!

Well since you said enough - I guess we are supposed to obey? Haha you are a joke. There's no anger being taken out on anyone. It wasn't my mother who was shot. It's concern as a citizen because she was a fellow citizen. It makes me sick that you are so blinded by your husband being a cop that you can't recognize an innocent life was lost due to carelessness and recklessness. I'm not the one who has to hide behind the badge for the rest of my life to justify taking someone else's. Sure cairns is responsible for what he did - but the cop who fired at the wrong door is also. If they were confused by the numbering even more reason to hold off on firing back. I will not understand trying to protect the citizens by killing one. As a trained officer they should have thought it was possible their bullet wouldnt travel directly to cairns. They should have considered the lives that they were just as guilty of putting in danger. That is a simple fact that you for some reason are ignoring. I wonder if it was in fact your husband who fired the fatal shot.

Anonymous: None of the cops in Warminster are Jesus Christ or God so we can assume their fallibility and imperfection when it comes to making mistakes. Cairns will face criminal charges for his mistakes, the police were reckless and negligent and directly caused an innocent person's death, that at least should be investigated for criminally negligent homicide. In other words, being so brain dead they thought an 89-year-old woman somehow resembled a 42-year-old man when using deadly force, i.e. shooting a rifle at least four times, mistakenly targeting an innocent elderly woman with a bullet that caused her death.

If that isn't a negligent and reckless use of deadly force, then what is? At the very least this should go to the State Attorney General and FBI for further inquiry and possible charges against the offending officer. Use of deadly force is no joke and should be a last option unless dire consequences necessitated otherwise. It seems apparent that the police officer firing the killing shot(s) at Marie Zienkewicz was "hoping to get lucky," by firing rounds at a target he "thought" was Cairns. Guessing and hoping to get lucky should not be part of the equation in such a situation and that decision cost an innocent life. When Warminster raises taxes to pay the monetary settlement of the Zienkewicz Family's upcoming civil lawsuit for wrongful death, it might enlighten you about the reality of the situation but based on your other ignorant comments I doubt it.

Bob- Perfectly stated. At the very least, it's comforting to read a comment based in truth, reason, and logic. I, for one, echo your sentiments.

The warminster police shot this poor grandmother, hours after the gunmen had last discharged his weapon.In those hours not one of those rocket scientist anonymous claimed they were had sense enough to get blue print of building.also DA (ducks ass ) Heckler who also felt police in perkasie were justafiable in the police murdering a handcuffed mentally challenged man.What a joke he is vote his ass out.Warminster police are a bunch of pu_ _ _y ass thugs who should all be replaced for stealing overtime pay the scandal when Chief James Gorzinski was there.But because they testafied against him DA immunity more training needed this is 2013 how much more training do they need. anony(mouses) spouse was probably one of those of .So you see thats my opinion of warminsters men in blue with yellow streaks up there backs.Lie Lie Lie.Not to mention 21 year old shot and killed over the scums falsely saying he pointed BB gun at them while climbing wooden pickett fence. Do I really need to keep go!ing , Because I can.now there are plenty of Great polce officers out there. But not a single one in WARMINSTER, PA.

Keep whining little babies....the more you whine the more stupid you sound! Grandmom should have stayed inside like everyone else. She would be alive today! You call the cops thugs.....the kid with the bb gun burglarized homes in the community! Who's the thug here! You pull a gun on a cop your gonna get shot! Period! Oh, I get it, I guess they were supposed to ask him first if it was real or not! Here's a reality check, they don't have to. They have a right to protect themselves! Just like if someone pulled a gun on you! You expect the cops to be sitting ducks! I know one thing, that kid won't pull a gun again on someone, will he! He made his life choices! He wanted to be a criminal! Look where it got him! Oh sure! Blame the cops again! Where's the outcry for Off. Brad Fox and his family! Funny how there was only one comment on that article! Typical! You would never have the balls to do what these cops do! You sound so big and tough on a blog though! I take great pride in have known many brave and outstanding officers in my life! Who have saved many lives! I know this much! You would never make a pimple on any of their as*es! I have talked to many on this topic and they have no problem with the outcome of the DA's investigation. It's only idiots like you who live in a dillusional existence and don't have a clue on what you are whining about! You just think you do! For all I know some of you are criminals anyway. That's why you feel a need to defend them! Get a life!

I hope you were being sarcastic, joe. "You pull a gun on a cop your gonna get shot" - to that logic- Marie didn't pull a gun on a cop and yet she still got shot - which is from where my problem stems...Marie had a right to live as much as they had a right to protect themselves. And as I've had to inform you before which you conveniently forgot, Marie was not the only one who left her apartment. And as I said, I too know officers - all of which have been able to apprehend armed suspects without killing bystanders. And because we speak against this specific action of the warminster pd does not mean we are criminals or that we think we are "big and tough" on a blog. You sound like a child - 18 at the oldest. At least I use my name. Also, it was stated following the investigation that the police were confused by the door numbering. Without having full information they fired and an innocent civilian died. That is negligent.

All of my statements other than the sarcasm one were directed at anonymous. However - whosever job it was to discover the floor plans or what not aside - the officers should have been certain of their target before they fired. Maybe waiting until they were briefed appropriately would have been a good start. That's how you can begin to avoid killing innocent civilians and that is how you avoid being negligent and reckless. It was not Marie's fault that they were unaware of what they were doing. I don't believe the cop should face criminal charges, but I do believe there should be some accountability in his or her lack of control. I am also closely related to a local cop, though not a warminster cop, but since Marie's death was "justified" it just seems that hiding identities would not be needed and that you as well as your relative would stand by the actions and rulings.

Also - to use a false name is all fine and dandy - but to say we are so tough and bold on a blog was what I was addressing when I said I at least use my name - because I may be just on a blog but I'm not using a false name. It's probably a lot easier to be tough on a blog when you go by something like "anonymous"

And ur husband is a donut eating pig

"stupid or smart" should be a question not an exclamation. And should I take that as a threat? Just because people aren't supporting the shooting death of an innocent civilian doesn't mean anyone would commit murder themselves. It would actually seem that people are opposed to murder.
Joe - I do not believe they should be fired however I don't see the harm in retraining. It would seem that the w pd is not used to dealing with these types of incidents, which is not a bad thing, but should be addressed. Studies show that when cops fire solo they fire less shots than when they are in groups and the rate of them hitting their subject is a lot lower than missing. That within itself should be addressed in a new training. Any officer who kills a civilian should face a retraining. Jobs in several sectors require further training when something horrific happens and police shouldn't be immune to that standard. They should be held to a higher standard as we are putting our safety in their hands. In pa you cannot handle things yourself - We are required to rely on the police. I don't own any weapons and have no interest in owning any, but I expect those whose jobs issue weapons to be trained and retrained every so often just to be thorough. There is no harm in that. Even teachers face continued education.

Maybe then the entire department should be trained in high stress situations more thoroughly. Stand offs and gun battles aren't an every day occurrence and it is certainly easy to panic during them...which is why every officer should go through training in regards to situations such as this especially in a populated area. This way it won't be another cop next time who kills someone else needlessly. It isn't for punishment, it is for the protection of the people they are there to protect.

Township supervisors meeting was supposed to be held last night. Anyone have any news if this debacle was addressed? Was the meeting even held?

I am so sick of your comments!!! Alot of good cops have been fired in Warminster over the years!!! Chief Rowan Kelly was fired after only 2 years!!! Because he drank on duty!!! Assaulted citizens!!! Sexually harassed women that worked for him!!!! So what!!! He did his job!!! He was never prosecuted, but he was still fired!!! Chief James Gorczynski!!! You said he stole $130,000 from the department!!! He didn't!!! He borrowed it and was going to pay it all back!!! I know!!! You don't!!! And he was fired!!! John Powell!!! Fired for going to meet a thirteen year old girl he met on the internet!!! Somebody planted condoms!a vibrator!and viagra! in his car!!! He was going to mentor this girl, nothing more!!! I know!!! Chief Elmer Clawges!!! Had sex with 13 and 16 year old girls!!! So what!!! He did his job!!! Never prosecuted!!! At least he kept his job!!! Arrrrgggghhh!!!!!!

Anonymous : you do realize that your spelling alone makes you seem more like the young daughter of a cop than a wife, yes? Also - I wouldn't put my life on the line so I didn't become a cop. A cop, like military personnel, should expect that they may face more dangerous situations than the average civilian. When they get killed in the line of duty there is honor and assistance supplied to the family. What does Marie's family get? Excuses. And as for your last post - I hope one day you re read the horrific things you said "so what" to...apart from the innappropriate relationships or actions the cops you mentioned were a part of with young girls ("so what he still did his job") "borrowing" $130'000 without permission is theft. My company would certainly frown upon it even if i pretended i intended to pay it back and we aren't in the legal or justice system. With your last post you basically proved that you believe the police are above the law.

wow anon ur last comment is shocking i cant believe ur ok with what u said. now i think im just gonna say. i think ur an asshole plain and simple and i hope ure husband gets fired two peas in a pod . i dont want his protection EVER NEVER EVER