NSB President Compares Neshaminy to Centennial
In a live online town hall meeting, Neshaminy School Board President compared Neshaminy's contract woes to the Centennial School District.
Neshaminy School Board President Ritchie Webb participated in a live online town hall meeting, hosted by the Courier Times, Thursday evening when he compared Neshaminy School District's current contract woes to the issues plaguing the Centennial School District.
"The bottom line is if we ever sign a contact that we cannot afford, we would end up in a Centennial situation," Webb said.
According to Warminster Patch, the Centennial is looking at not only a $3 to $4 million dollar deficit this year, but is also projecting even larger deficits within the next few years as the district's PSERS contribution requirements continue to rise. Centennial has also consolidated its elementary schools from six to three and eliminated some staff as a result, but the school board is proposing even more severe cuts in preparation of the looming deficits.
In the town hall, Webb stated that the district cannot raise taxes, the revenue stream has gone down and the district's expenses are up.
In the Neshaminy Federation of Teacher's latest contract proposal, the union suggested that the district raise taxes and take money out of its reserves to afford the contract. However, Webb stated that the district cannot do any of those things and that the district has about $40 million worth of needs for the buildings.
In order to afford the union's latest contract offer, Webb stated that the school board would have to "deplete our reserves, or a big chunk of it," which he said would both "devestate" the district and be "foolish."
According to Webb, the Neshaminy School Board predicted Centennial's current situation.
"I have said from day one that we cannot sign a contract that we cannot afford. You can’t lay off a teacher for economic reasons; you have to cut a program or close a school," he said.
"Our schools were built for the children, not for the teachers," Webb stated.
Webb also addressed Neshaminy's last contract, which the Neshaminy teachers are still working under though it's expired.
"It was unaffordable from the day it was signed."
Linda Sheridan
3:36 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
God Bless Ritchie Webb and this school board.
concerned123
3:45 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
Dr. Pollack and the other four board members who voted yes to last years new contract are you reading this? Call Richie Webb up and learn how to be financial responsible.
Neshaminy has a current school board we could only wish for in Centennial !
Steve G
5:06 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
Do not sign a contract that you can not fund or afford! It appears that the whole world except the Centennial School Board understands this concept.
It is sad when your peers publicly (in a polite way) state that you are inept at your job!!! It is amazing that we do not have logical thinking members on our School Board. Dr. Pollack, maybe Richie Webb can tutor you one or two nights a week, on how to run a fiscally responsible School Board??? It could only help.
It is time for Dr. Pollack to step down. He has led this Board down the wrong path for the last few years. Can the School Board members be recalled??
How long before the District is bankrupt????
george
8:25 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
Prehaps your tutor shuold be from the Council Rock School District??!!!
concerned123
7:31 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
Amen Steve,
Our Board in Centennial will try and tax us out of this problem besides laying off teachers.
They are already filling for an act 1 exemption to raise taxes a reported 4% over the allowed 1.7 % max. for 2013. The contract has two more remaining years after 2013 and we should expect the same.
Dr. Pollack, Huff and Lynch need to step down. They are totally financially irresponsible board members. They have led this disctrict into economic turmoil. You are looking at the next Neshaminy
TBP
8:05 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
Disrespectful, desperate and unprofessional. Three words that describe why the president of one board would bring in another neighboring district to help deflect the problems in his own back yard. Centennial has had labor peace, low taxes and a quality education before, during and hopefully after the current crisis. This crisis has been brought on by a recession and bad decisions by our state government. Centennial's school board, and the teacher's union, seem to be doing something right: talking and working out issues so they don't end up in a public forum.
Allison Carter
2:09 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012
Whoever you are, you're my hero! How fascinating to find an individual who uses facts and data to support their information.
JML
4:41 pm on Friday, March 16, 2012
AMEN!!!! SOMEONE MAKING SENSE
concerned123
10:36 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
I guess your idea of working things out is our board giving the teachers everything they want with no fiscal responsibilty to the taxpayers of the disctrict?
These matters should be made public. , We need a transparent board like Neshaminy. The public has a right to know! Look what has happened now that we left it totally up to our board.
It doesnt matter what brought about the economic depression we are in, The simple facts are our school board knew the contract was unfunded and they still approved it.
I applaude Richie Webb for speaking up and voicing the truth. He is totally correct, our board should be totally embarrsed . What they did last year was totally foolish.
If anything it shows how out of touch Dr. Pollack and the other four members are with the current economic times.
ingrid
7:52 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Thank goodness someone on a school board understands fiscal responsibility. Possibly our board in Centennial should reconsider paying an interim principal the unjustifiable amount per day she is getting paid. Why not look within our own district and promote from within. Truly, stupidity at its finest. Just because you have a fancy degree or Dr. title in front of your name does not necessarily make you an intelligent individual. It is about time we get some average taxpayers who know how to run a business with some basic common sense and fiscal responsibility on our school board.
Neshaminy1
8:54 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
I am not sure what to think. It's said that we can't afford the current contract. The teachers are still getting free healthcare and great salaries. We have over $10 millon in the reserve account. Our taxes haven't been raised in years. I think we are OK.I am not about to panic. Bottom line, it's about the kids and I think we need to attract the best and the brightest to Neshaminy, not scare them away.
P.S. God bless a balanced budget and good teachers.
TBP
9:06 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Teachers at Centennial do not get free healthcare. . .most pay 21% The last contract negotiated actually raised the amount teachers pay. Easy to get all this info. Just call their admin building and ask a few questions.
concerned123
10:39 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
If that 's true its not enough, Not when they added their spouses and increased their benefits in last years contract. They should pay 30% like federal workers.
They get top tier healthcare for almost nothing on taxpayers backs.
TBP
11:15 am on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Concerned, please get your facts straight. The teachers pay what they do because the plan is not a top tier plan. It is a good mid level plan. And their spouses have always been on their plan.
concerned123
1:17 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
I am sure their plan is better than mine, Being in the private sector I pay 100 % of my health care. If you think you are going to get sympathy from people in the private sector you are nuts.
How do you think we got here? They gave the teachers raises from which we the district had no money to give and that alone is adding 1.6 million a year to the debt.
The simple facts there is no money, I am sure your answer is just to tax your way out of the problem. Foolish years of spending is what got us in this situation. Last years contract was just another slap in the face to the taxpayer
If the Teachers care so much about their fellow brothers and sisters let them come back to the table and give back and show good faith. Let's guess what the answer would be to that question . The teachers union could care lesss about the young eager teachers in our disctrict. that we need instead the older burned out ones that are just counting the days to retire.
PEOPLE SPEAK UP AND CONTACT YOUR BOARD MEMBERS AND ASK THEM WHAT HAPPPEN TO THEIR OATH OF FINANCIAL RESPONSIBLITY TO THE DISCTRICT !
Langhorne Mom
3:31 pm on Tuesday, July 17, 2012
You had the chance to change your future when you CHOSE your profession. Choose a different profession, and you will get a different outcome. PROFESSIONALS - doctors, lawyers, teachers - those who influence our futures DESERVE our best. You want more? Get a teaching, lawyer, or MD degree and you will get it! Don't blame them because they chose to work their asses off to get what they have!
Southampton Mom
4:54 pm on Monday, March 5, 2012
Fast Fact - Teachers pay close to $5,000 for health insurance for a family (aware that it's not as much as a family paying on their own), have fairly high co-pays on everything, must get a referral for specialist and all doctors have to be in "their system." Many teachers contribute their own money towards the United Way as well as a district wide Literacy Fund all taken out through their paychecks. They also took a pay freeze for the first year of the contract.
Steve G
5:26 pm on Monday, March 5, 2012
Here is a novel idea. I suggest that all Centennial employees (not only teachers) pay a percentage of their pay for healthcare. If they move up to the next pay level, they automatically will be paying more for healthcare. The upper end of the salary scale will pay more and the new teachers at the bottom of the scale would pay less. Those who based on salary could afford to pay a little more would, and the younger employees working their way up the pay scale would get a break until they reached the district average salary.
This idea should stimulate some discussion!!!!
concerned123
3:38 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012
Talking about something that happened ten years ago isn't going to fix the problems we have today.
Most people in the private sectors have issues with teachers unions, You can not expect most people to accept seeing 2 to 5 % raises 3 out of a 4 years of a new deal and be happy about it . The present school board had no funds to pay for this and they still approved it. It's not like they are getting paid badly, Top 20% in Centennial are making over a 100 grand and average salary is close to 80 grand.
The issue I see if you don't have funds to pay for it , It should not be approved !
The board needs fresh blood and be more transparent with taxpayers . It would be a big plus .
Allison Carter
4:08 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012
Certainly it won't fix problems; but neither will the constant negative rhetoric surrounding most discussions on these boards abour teachers. And again, please check your facts. Raises are not that high. Teachers also took a year of pay freeze as well. Here's the issue: until there is a system in place for teachers to be paid on their worth, there has to be some incentive to teach. These pay scales are the only way to do it. Most people in the private sector see their hard work rewarded rather than completely lambasted in the media, but teachers don't have that luxury. I also think your assumptions are slightly inflated regarding salaries, but I don't have the figures to support that in front of me. I would agree, though, that the board isn't doing their job. It's just sad that teachers take so much of the brunt of public anger; not only can they not serve on the board but they can't even speak at the meetings unless expressly invited in special cicumstances.
concerned123
4:56 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012
Alllsion you sound like a teacher ,
Constant negitive rhetoric? What world are you living in ? Do you not have a tv or read a paper. We are in the worst economic times since the great depression. People are losing their homes and jobs, pay 50 to 100 % in their healthcare insurance and have'nt had raises in years.
People see their school taxes raising every year, disctricts filing act 1 exemptions to raise taxes even higher and Teachers always complaing about their contracts, always wanting more. So you wonder why there unions get bad press?
Lets get some facts straight. If you were at last years school board meetting to vote on the current contract it was stated by M.s Mueller that with teachers steps in their matrix system they would be getting raises the amount I stated above. The salaries I stated are also correct and were published in the times last year and stated by Ms Mueller in the meeting. And lets not forget this is for 9 months of work .
Allison Carter
8:09 pm on Thursday, March 15, 2012
WOw...so someone who supports teachers must be one? Interesting. This area hasn't raised taxes the way that they should have over the last several years, and again are suffering the consequences. And I was in fact at the school board meeting, listening to Mark Miller say in one breath he hadn't read the contract and then in the next breath site specific details that were in it. Nine months of work? That's the negative rhetoric I'm talking about, as you obviously have no idea what a teacher actually does with his time, nor do you understand how a teacher's schedule works. What would you have a teacher do during the summer, when school isn't in session? Let's punish teachers with that same old "you only work nine months" when THAT'S WHEN SCHOOL'S IN SESSION. Many teachers tutor, have second jobs on weekends, and fill in those free days with workshops and webinars trying to better themselves to be better teachers for their students. If you have a problem with the matrix, change it. How else are teachers supposed to be rewarded for their work, other than the matrix? Merit pay? Fine! Let's see an implementation of merit pay that would work, and I'm sure you'd have teachers support it. Teachers didn't make the system what it is, and they aren't to blame when a school board voted for their contract.
Langhorne Mom
3:32 pm on Tuesday, July 17, 2012
"Our schools were built for the children, not for the teachers," Webb stated.
Who is reaching these children? The teachers.